Liverpool banter 7

03 Sep 2026 08:28:30
As much as we aren't happy with the window, the following is our talent that is all 25' and under.

GK:-
Mama 25
Pesci 21
Bruchmans 18

Def:-
Leoni 19
Jaquet 21
Ndukwe 18
Kerkez 22
Bradley 23

Midfield:-
Dom 25
Wirtz 23
Nyoni 19
McConnell 22
Gravenberch 24

Fwds:-
Rio 18
Munoz 23
Barcola 24
Ekitike 24

03 Sep 2026 08:53:21
If they all come good then it’s a master stroke. If not then we are stuck with some very expensive players

03 Sep 2026 09:06:54
"If they all come good then it’s a master stroke. If not then we are stuck with some very expensive players"

Irish, you could apply this maxim to any single player that anyone has bought. I would've loved to see Camara or Kone, Kayode/Aina/Palestra and Diomande/Minteh/Mbaye to have come in during this window, but they could also be some "very expensive" players we are stuck with.



It's disingenuous to question who we have bought whilst also lamenting those we haven't.

03 Sep 2026 09:19:31
Spot on, Zed, esp. in that last paragraph. More importantly, if you look at the stat that 50% of signings made actually come good, hence it is literally 50/50 for a signing to play out.

Transfers are essentially gambles, and regardless of how hard and efficient your due diligence is, they may or may not pan out; hence, you're essentially in Vegas gambling.

The diff. here is that unlike gambling in Vegas, the house doesn't always win.

03 Sep 2026 11:51:11
I have or had very high hopes for Jaros. Hopefully he makes a full recovery soon so we can sell Mamardashvili, who has failed to impress so far.

03 Sep 2026 12:07:06
There are a fair few players in that list that probably won't fulfil their promise, but I'll wait until the season is much further along before passing any judgement. Give the new coaching crew time to do their stuff.

03 Sep 2026 07:42:25
When will Hughes actually go? The sooner the better. We need an adult in that job.

03 Sep 2026 08:14:54
I think he's gone, Chrisy. A DOF is now irrelevant till January, as far as I'm concerned.

03 Sep 2026 08:30:45
A DOF's job is not to just buy and sell players. He is the boss on how this club would operate on the field going forward.

03 Sep 2026 08:39:12
The job of buying players should never stop. It’s a competitive market and you need to show how much you want someone so they choose you especially when many top footballers (and families) prefer Spain or London.

03 Sep 2026 08:45:16
I know all that, but I don't care. I'm sure it will all be sorted. We won the league 17 months ago. We are Liverpool. We play Atletico next Wednesday. Let's enjoy what we've got.

03 Sep 2026 08:58:12
Karma is a Bitch, pretty sure Iraola decides how things operate on the field mate.

03 Sep 2026 09:08:36
An SD would also need to be involved in the team and assess together with the coach what kind of players are needed to further supplement the squad and which players are surplus to requirements. Something that our current one clearly did not do.

03 Sep 2026 09:07:00
Don't let common sense get in the way, Chewy.

03 Sep 2026 09:31:44
Spot on, 1jj. The DOF job is the DOF job and all the functions that come with it.

And judging by the way the last set of holders of that post have conducted themselves in the past 4/5 years, I absolutely care about who we hire for that job. All the other stuff is just white noise.

03 Sep 2026 09:52:32
I could've sworn we'd won the league in the last 5 years.

As Klopp proved, the most important role at the club is Head Coach. Let Iraola get on with the job. We were all ecstatic with his appointment and most thought that was all that needed fixing.



I'm confident that our owners will appoint the right person to the role. They haven't got many things wrong during their tenure.

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03 Sep 2026 08:29:41
Well that one side sorted out. 💪

03 Sep 2026 08:40:53
I would argue that, in his pomp, Chiesa was considered a left winger as well! One of the best around at the time.

03 Sep 2026 08:57:53
Could add Koumas left too?

03 Sep 2026 08:59:16
Wrong arm.

03 Sep 2026 09:00:02
Macko, I don’t know much of his time at Juventus, but certainly in the 2021 Euro finals, he was the best player in the tournament playing on the RW for eventual winners, Italy.

03 Sep 2026 09:36:17
That's the thing, MKS. Chiesa was so good he could play on both flanks comfortably. One of the stars of the Euros, as you pointed out.

And once touted as a 100m euro player that no one could afford at the time.

Sadly, that knee injury set him back. So has his move to LFC, which has set him back even further. Really sad.

Oh, and Munoz should be on the weaker arm as that is where he is doing his best work right now.

03 Sep 2026 11:31:37
I am more concerned about the lack of a forward to cover Isak.
Munoz has shown he is able to hold the right, even Gakpo looked decent there.

I suspect we’ll sign Minteh in Jan, and Munoz/Gakpo will have to cover cf at times.

This season offers a huge opportunity for someone like Koumas. From what I have seen, he has all the heart and workrate, but to me seems to like that quality required to really make a difference at that end of the pitch.

I am hoping he proves me wrong and becomes a reliable forward option.

From the little I have seen of Rio in pre-season and the opening games, he has a huge learning curve and probably isn’t ready for PL football yet. Again, I hope I am proven wrong.

03 Sep 2026 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - thefutureisoldgold3 has posted a new article entitled, Wolves Ratings at West Ham: Defence Below Standard

03 Sep 2026 01:11:51
Top 10 net spend this window;
Liverpool £200m
Spurs £173m
Ipswich £173m
City £162m
Arsenal £138m
Hull £133m
Coventry £123m
Utd £101m
Brentford £95m
Fulham £70m

Top 8 gross spenders last 3 seasons:
Chelsea- £849m
Liverpool- £678m
City- £650m
Spurs- £627m
Newcastle- £566m
Utd- £543m
Arsenal- £539m
Villa- £440m

Top 8 net spend last 3 seasons:
Liverpool £422m
Arsenal £404m
Spurs £403m
Utd £296m
City £175m
Newcastle £110m
Chelsea +£4m profit
Villa +£45m profit

{Ed666's Note - All this money spent And still at least 3 players short of challenging

03 Sep 2026 05:22:17
FSG don’t spend.

03 Sep 2026 06:20:44
3 of the top 5 most expensive PL footballers ever! Imagine that burden if they don’t work out. 😳

03 Sep 2026 06:41:19
Again, another post that makes me remember what legendary work Klopp did! When we spent, we spent carefully. Even players that were shifted were sold at a healthy rate. Switch to the present day, we sell TAA for 10, Jones for 30, zero for Konate & so on. When people accused him of deep loyalty for Hendo for giving him a new contract, he shipped him, Fabinho, & replaced the entire midfield in one go.

The guy was a generational coach. The best I have seen. It is not that he did everything but his presence made others do their job well. Someone like Edwards & maybe Lijnders even end up thinking that it is because of them but it was still Klopp. He made them do their jobs better. Truly a legendary leader. Hopefully AI comes close!

03 Sep 2026 06:59:13
Putting aside the 115, you’ve got to admire how City operate. Real quality in the door, never short of players, never short of quality, never any drama and apparently spend less than most net. 😂

Got to be some secret payments happening somewhere.

03 Sep 2026 07:14:03
Our sales are less because our fringe players are crap to the outside world (Endo, Chiesa etc). Klopp had to work with a shoestring budget at Liverpool. It was always about selling a first teamer to buying a first teamer. FSG has never had a proper 25-man squad for any manager. A good first eleven followed by a poor and weak bench (from Shaqiri to Chiesa).

03 Sep 2026 07:23:11
Stephen Caulker? Darwin Nunez? Naby Keita? Arthur Melo? Ozan Kabak? Ben Davies?

Some thought went into those transfers.

03 Sep 2026 07:27:30
I have seen this about spending, though I fail to see how it is so much this summer. £106m on Barcola, was it £34m Munoz and approx £35m on the two young players? Araujo loan and Jacquet were bought in January. Barcola's potential full fee can't be included as the extra isn't paid yet. When you minus the sale of Curtis Jones, surely the figure is closer to £140m?

Also worth noting the number of players on huge contracts that have left the club in the past few seasons.

This summer alone, I would guess that the wage outlay before purchases was reduced by something like 750k to 1m a week.

I'm not disputing that the club has pumped in money the last 3 seasons, but I do feel figures can easily be manipulated to suit a narrative.

Cheers

03 Sep 2026 08:05:46
Greggers, we agreed to buy Jacquet in January but the sale went through this summer so is included. You are correct about the huge wages saved. Plus, like others mentioned, a lot of the other teams have sold their assets very well.

03 Sep 2026 08:08:07
We’ve spent £84m net per window since Klopp left. I’d imagine a few teams have averaged more than that. When people see the money spent over the last three windows they forget the profit we made in the two before that. Makes the league win an even greater achievement.

03 Sep 2026 08:26:42
Well they should have spent some more in order to get the players we actually require.

03 Sep 2026 08:31:52
Excluding Salah, who else was on huge wages, compared to the players we’ve just purchased?

{Ed025's Note - VVD, Gakpo and Grav to name 3..

03 Sep 2026 08:53:08
We need to stop harking back to Klopp like he was some kind of messiah who never made a mistake. He made plenty of mistakes and I'm sure he'd be the first to admit it.

Let's not forget in the 2 seasons before he left we finished 5th and 3rd. In Klopp's 9 year tenure we won the title once.

Slot won the title once (I won't entertain anyone who says 'but it was Klopp's team'. Tell me you know nothing about football without telling me you know nothing about football) and he finished 5th once and got sacked. He had to lift a team who had just gone from the ultimate high to the ultimate low in the space of 3 months whilst trying to bed in a host of new players, some of whom had arrived not in the best shape.

Our main player and talisman was revolting against him in public because he was playing crap and deservedly got dropped.

I'm not saying he shouldn't have been sacked or that he was better than Klopp, he obviously wasn't but I'm trying to add some context to these posts about how great Klopp was and people's unrealistic expectations since he left.

Klopp is a genius and one of the best managers we've ever had. He's up there with Shanks, Paisley, Fagan and Dalglish but even he got it wrong from time to time and needed patience before he got it right.

During Klopp's tenure we never once filled all the gaps in the squad in one transfer window. In fact I don't know of any team in the world who has ever done that. So why did we expect that to happen this summer?

Iraola has an excellent squad which is 100% capable of challenging for the title. He just needs to get them performing consistently enough to do it.

You don't need worldies in every position you're not playing PSG every week. You just need the team to be structured enough to beat the likes of Brentford, Bournemouth etc. with that bit of extra quality to get through the bigger and tighter games.

We have the extra quality but we don't have the structure, that's what Iraola was employed to bring.

{Ed025's Note - wow...i thought he was a great manager RSO and you not only won things but played some great entertaining football myself mate, this seems like a post an Evertonian would send.. :)

03 Sep 2026 08:54:09
They haven't left Ed

{Ed025's Note - oh sorry Irish i thought you meant that were still here..

03 Sep 2026 09:37:34
Indeed, Faith. These figures all came from the GoFundMe account the club put up years ago.

03 Sep 2026 09:42:02
Robertson and Konate were on £150k+, Elliott and Jones probably a combined £150k. Don’t forget Calvin Ramsey, the savings we will make on Irn Bru and haggis will be huge.

03 Sep 2026 03:18:00
Exactly ed too much money spent on star players. 360m on Isak, Wirtz and Barcola. That's 6 60m players.

{Ed666's Note - I agree and the squad would have been deeper for it. Oh well hindsight is a beautiful thing.

03 Sep 2026 04:14:01
Agreed Ed. I think another issue that we failed to address is to move players on. I was all for giving the players a clean slate once Andoni came in but it was quite clear after the preseason tour that Chiesa and Endo weren't favoured at all. How they are still with us at the end of the window just further highlights the incompetence of the STC. We could also have tried to sell both Ramsay or Elliott for low fees like we did for Baj but only managed to get loans for either of them.

Although I'm not so sure the numbers above are accurate. I would have thought that Spurs spent more since they replaced almost their entire starting 11. Granted a few are loans with obligations to buy but the numbers still seemed low to me

{Ed666's Note - Endo will be gone in the summer if not January and I think we have Chiesa for life because he’s on absurd wages and no one’s going to take a risk on him with his injury record unless we subsidize his wages or give him a free. He has to go down as one of the biggest mistakes in Liverpool transfer history.

03 Sep 2026 08:00:44
Horrendous reading Ed666

{Ed666's Note - mind boggling mate

02 Sep 2026 23:26:02
Long-time reader, first-time poster.

I've been coming here for more than a decade, quietly reading from the edges of the conversation. There was always something comforting about it — familiar names, familiar arguments, familiar hope. In its own strange way, this site became part of the ritual of following Liverpool.

I never posted. Perhaps because offering an opinion to a room full of strangers can feel more exposing than it ought to. Perhaps because this place, like most football communities, can occasionally sharpen its elbows. So I watched, read, agreed, disagreed — and stayed quiet.

But after all these years, it felt time to step through the door.

And for a first post, there seemed no better place to begin than with gratitude.

To the Eds, and to the ITKs who continue to share what they hear: thank you. Particularly through another transfer window, when rumour, hope and absolute nonsense arrive in roughly equal measure, this place has always offered something different.

For those of us following Liverpool from the other side of the world, the club can sometimes feel impossibly close and impossibly far away at the same time. This site has often felt like a small window left open — a glimpse behind the curtain, a conversation overheard in the corridor, a way of feeling that little bit closer to Anfield.

I've taken more from this community over the years than I've ever given back.

So perhaps it's time I joined the conversation.

YNWA
RedPerspective

02 Sep 2026 23:43:01
Great post. Welcome aboard.

03 Sep 2026 00:01:19
Helluva post that redp.

03 Sep 2026 03:45:46
A well thought out, insightful post. It'll never catch on. 😁

03 Sep 2026 08:29:17
Agreed Burkey. Way too well versed for here 🤣!!! Keep em coming RP8 🥳🫵!!

03 Sep 2026 08:36:01
Excellent post, redp, welcome to the site or the mad house during the transfer windows.

03 Sep 2026 09:10:41
Welcome RP8.

If your first post is an example of your writing, then I look forward to reading more!

{Ed025's Note - me too Zed..

03 Sep 2026 09:38:58
"For those of us following Liverpool from the other side of the world, the club can sometimes feel impossibly close and impossibly far away at the same time. This site has often felt like a small window left open — a glimpse behind the curtain, a conversation overheard in the corridor, a way of feeling that little bit closer to Anfield."


All Facts, No printer.

Welcome aboard, man.

03 Sep 2026 10:46:58
What a lovely and classy first post, welcome aboard mate.

02 Sep 2026 19:57:56
Window is shut! Start backing the team. If you're in the ground, make sure you get behind them. Confidence is clearly low and the negativity towards the players won't help.
Just look at the Newcastle fans' response during our game against them. They keep losing their best players but still back their team.
Time for the fans to step up.

02 Sep 2026 20:56:24
Yes, it’s absolutely the fans' fault that our midfielders are soft as muck. 🙄

02 Sep 2026 21:06:25
We will win. 💪🏽

02 Sep 2026 21:22:27
After Stuart Twatwell in charge at Newcastle, Oliver on VAR foul throw fiasco, substitute non event, Darren England is the Ref for Friday Night, thank god there's no golf on the telly!

Elliot (Valencia) and Ndukwe (Levante) could play against each other in La Liga this season, Ndukwe has been an unused substitute so far after two La Liga games. Jayden Danns remains at LFC.

{Ed666's Note - thanks for this

02 Sep 2026 21:34:45
ArAy, has your sentence been commuted and will we see you back in the Chat? Hope all is good with you and your clan.

02 Sep 2026 22:22:08
Whose confidence is low? Assuming you mean the fans, cos I've not detected that from the players at all.

02 Sep 2026 22:12:24
Nope. I'm just going to boo everyone. Players, manager, tea lady, even the wheel chair section is getting it

Booooo

02 Sep 2026 23:42:00
I was going to say the same thing, LFC8. I can't stand these "put your pom-poms on" and "Let's all get behind the team" kind of posts, people acting like you're going to be booing from the Kop for 90 minutes just because you're giving out about the shortcomings on here.

03 Sep 2026 06:49:06
I've not been to the game for years, but what colour do we play in again?
Just so I know. I don't want to be cheering for the wrong side.

02 Sep 2026 17:58:40
Window closed, not what everyone wanted but we know the squad now. Our midfield looks a level below Man City and Arsenals but we still have quality and we will just have to outscore the teams we play. At least it won't be boring sideways passing!

Really hope Iraola gets them performing and proves to be our long term manager.

02 Sep 2026 18:29:36
I think everything for us now revolves around getting the press working at full tilt and effectively. Once that is in place, it will all click into gear for us.

I was speaking to a Newcastle fan today and he said Isak was excellent on the press before injuries. Kinda shocked me, as I didn't ever recall him pressing at speed. So perhaps it's still a fitness thing and about getting his confidence back.



If he can't regain it, we have to swap him out, even though he is a goalscorer. I think Gakpo could be great at leading the press.

The press is everything right now. We have to get it working and perfected. When we are regularly turning the ball over high up and covering the right spaces behind, the rest will fall into place.

02 Sep 2026 18:43:17
The press and the midfield balance… I don’t think too much is wrong. Both games were lost by poor positional play / defensive awareness. Players need to step up and develop an appetite for the hard yards and putting a foot in.

Too many players just want to play nice football and focus on the ball work… that is the problem, which is a mindset shift that will take time.

02 Sep 2026 19:13:20
Davey Sulls, if I was playing against our press, I would just drop long balls on our full backs, mainly Frimpong, and chase it down. Backing that up by then pressing our back 4.
Wouldn't be hard to do, mate.

02 Sep 2026 19:20:48
Arsenal have yet to concede a goal this season so far:
Man Cheaty Community Shield 3-0
Coventry 3-0 PL Home
Aston Villa 0-1 PL Away
LFC defence had its worst PL defensive record last year in the Premier: 53 goals conceded. Arsenal conceded 27 times; one more goal conceded and we would have doubled it.


Andoni doubled Arsenal with 54 goals conceded for the PL season 25-26. Bournemouth: W13,D18,L7. They scored 58 goals. GD=+4.
Attack is obviously the best form of defence for Andoni.
Strap yourselves in!

02 Sep 2026 19:52:08
Gegenpressing is dying not because teams stopped doing it but because sport science figured out that it burns players out by year 3.

Andoni is going to need all of the forwards inc Freddy Church as they will
be getting rinsed!

02 Sep 2026 20:07:55
Wouldn’t worry, Swamp. A lot of this lot will be gone in two.

02 Sep 2026 20:24:25
Great start on the positivity. We have only these players back them. I don't have the fortune to be in the stadium, so can everyone who is back the players as now is the time?

02 Sep 2026 20:25:16
If our back 4 weren't switching off, and a couple of cynical yellow cards in midfield, we'd be on 6 points today.

02 Sep 2026 20:43:43
Didn’t see Salah or Robbo burnt out by year 3.

03 Sep 2026 06:56:32
I don't mind boring wins. You can keep your 2-2 draws.
We could be boring and dominant in the 70s and 80s.
Goals and entertainment are for the other teams on a relaxing Sunday afternoon (as long as United, City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs are not winning).

03 Sep 2026 08:43:13
Think there will be big improvements over the next few games as players get more used to Ai's tactics and are fitter. Just trust the process and the team.

03 Sep 2026 09:44:21
I'm with Davey and @Man. It is now all about structure and balance, esp. in that defence/midfield combo. If we get that right, then the connection with the midfield and attack will also see some improvement.

Most importantly, there has to be a shift in mentality on this front and it will not be easy for Iraola to just flip a switch with these players, cos for the past 18 months or so, they have been playing in slow, easy mode with next to no running, discipline and structure, tactically.



They will need to grow a pair, be ready to do the hard yards and increase their concentration and focus levels to achieve better decision-making. If we get the majority of these things right, better days are not as far as we may think.

02 Sep 2026 17:38:40
"This is not the end of the world. It's one opportunity. For a player with his level of talent, I'm very confident he will soon have even better options and offers than the one he had yesterday."

Monaco sporting director Thiago Scuro talking about them cancelling Camara's move to Chelsea. Note the phrase 'even better options'.

02 Sep 2026 18:27:06
Wonder if we have a deal for when stc has f***** off.
For January.

02 Sep 2026 18:44:27
What does STC mean? Everyone posts it, but I don't understand.

02 Sep 2026 19:05:00
Silver Tongued Charlatan was coined by The Fields (I think) based on interactions with Hughes that he's been told about by various contacts.

02 Sep 2026 19:41:57
Ah great, thanks Lofty. I feel like I have been missing out on an in joke. 😅

02 Sep 2026 18:51:03
Silver tongued charlatan- MOT.

Think one of the ITK's described him as that once and it stuck.

02 Sep 2026 20:25:23
I innocently thought it was Senior Transfer Committee!
D’oh!

03 Sep 2026 06:57:55
He might be a charlatan, but he's not the only one I know.