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27 Apr 2026 09:19:54
I disagree on Curtis Jones and don't lean into latest relevancy. There's a lot of midfielders out there, better than Curtis Jones.
My main issue with Jones is that there's a few performances here and there where he looks like he has an attitude and couldn't be bothered. That's the type of player I don't want at the club. I don't care if he's a local lad. No player has loyalty to anyone but themselves.

The alleged wage increase he's seeking is also insane for what he is.
We've a very weak midfield. Macca looks out grav has a lot to prove under another manager. He's been appalling this season. Tactics don't forgive not tracking back and winning tackles. Jones doesn't improve what we have to why would we hand him a nice big wage increase like the others?
Let him go to Italy.

27 Apr 2026 10:08:23
Fully agree, Ron Funk. 👍

27 Apr 2026 11:17:17
My issue with Jones is end product. He can't score, assist 10 goals a season, and therefore we can surely improve on him.

27 Apr 2026 09:05:23
Gerrard on TNT maybe a little annoyed with our missed opportunities in the January transfer window regarding Guehi and Semenyo.
"They should be playing for Liverpool, so that hurts even more.
"We were linked with two of those players and that would have made a big difference to Liverpool.
"But I've said it before on record. Two top, top players.

And for the price that they got them in as well. One on a free. One was, you know, £60million.
"In today's market, they're two bargains. They're two bargains.
"Quality players, experienced, ready to go into the prime years of their career. International-level players.
"And what they've done is they've just helped kick City on at the right time."

27 Apr 2026 09:37:41
Could have sworn City paid 25 million £ to Palace. 🤟

27 Apr 2026 09:43:29
Lol, yeah I heard him say one was on a free, and didn't think that sounded right.

It wasn't.

But yeah, wish we signed them both. I'm not a huge fan of Guehi as a defender, but he would have ticked a couple boxes for us that may have made a difference for us - leadership and ability on the ball.

Semenyo was a no-brainer. My read on it is that we've been hesitant with RWs mainly because we had the ageing, like fine wine, Mo Salah out there. So perhaps we were less inclined to bring in a player as a succession. But we should have.

27 Apr 2026 10:29:18
Agree, Faith -

Guehi's no Bobby Moore but he improves our squad, & apart from a few games he's been decent for City in their run in.

Semenyo was a no brainer and a real missed opportunity. Works hard, versatile & can finish, plus him & Guehi stay fit & don't miss a lot of games.

27 Apr 2026 11:05:11
Semenyo and Guehi are solid Premier League players, but they aren't world beaters, so I don't really understand why people obsess about them.

26 Apr 2026 17:29:14
29 is relatively "old" in EPL football but I would like to see LFC sign Jarrod Bowen, especially if West Ham get relegated.

26 Apr 2026 18:12:45
He's too old, and we'd be signing the poor lads divorce papers too.

26 Apr 2026 18:16:45
I would second that, whether or not he would move north is another question. Tottenham are going down anyway, so it really doesn't matter. 🙂

26 Apr 2026 18:54:28
Is 29 too old though?

If you sign him and get 2 really good years out of him (of which I think he's fully capable), then I don't see him being too old.

Was Thiago Silva too old when he joined Chelsea? He was fantastic.

Everyone talks about RVP joining United from Arsenal.

Those are just off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are lots of other examples.

Not sure we'd go for him anyway, but I think we could do a lot worse!

26 Apr 2026 19:12:29
It's not the age but the fee that worries me. 10-15m then sure go for it.

26 Apr 2026 20:42:20
His wages will be problem no1. After that, will be his affiliations and lifestyle down south.

26 Apr 2026 21:01:03
We could do with a good 28/29 year old or two in our side for leadership provided they are good enough and I would not mind at all having Bowen in our squad at a decent price.

Not buying this 29 is too old.

Bunch of Chelsea minded DOFs on this site. A squad needs men as well as young talent.

26 Apr 2026 21:11:21
The Robin Van Persie thing is a myth. He had one really good season and the other two were hit by injury, and was then sold at an £18m loss to Fenerbahce.

29 is too old, specially when you're talking about spending big money, West Ham won't be letting him go cheap as he has a contract until 2030.

Just remember, United spunking big money on Varane & Casemiro, who were both at the wrong end of their careers and how badly that worked out. Let's not be Man United.

26 Apr 2026 21:17:47
@Diogo, isn't he 30 already?

26 Apr 2026 21:18:02
He's never leaving London so not happening.

26 Apr 2026 23:08:25
Absolutely would go for Bowen.

We don't need a 25-man squad of 23-25yr old players in or entering their prime years.

He'd be great in the squad and assuming he'd take that kind of Shaqiri-type role then 100%.

27 Apr 2026 00:14:32
We are already losing Salah and Ekitike is out for a while and will likely take time to get up to speed.

Then we have Gakpo and hopefully a fit Isak as forward options.

Ngumoha is very talented and exciting future prospect but still a little hit and miss attacking and literally does not do a lick defensively. Has got everything to learn from defensive point of view.

Then I'm sure we'll get someone young like Diomande who is also incredibly talented on the ball but coming to a new league and question marks defensively.

We need high intensity around Isak because he will get better with fitness but he won't all of a sudden become a pressing machine.

We need 10 men busting a gut around him and him playing the Salah role of becoming a numbers machine.

So yes. We need someone reliable up top who knows the league and we can almost bank on a certain level of play and can also provide leadership to what is becoming a young group.

Bowen fits that bill. If we go full on 15 and under only, then likelihood is we become a Chelsea like team and a bit soft. We are already soft this season.

We need men out there. You say Van Persie Victor, I give you Milner.

Trust me, we need leaders. I'm actually dreading a fully youth transfer season this one. Think we'll be in big trouble if we go down that route. Very much following the Chelsea lead.

27 Apr 2026 02:12:22
Bowen would be an excellent addition to the squad.

Keys - transfer fee, wages, what does Bowen expect in terms of starts?

27 Apr 2026 04:30:10
Bowen is all right, but I'd want us to look at Said El Mala.

27 Apr 2026 07:37:35
Van Persie was the example cited by someone else, Davey, I merely pointed out that he was effective for one season and the perception that United had more than one good year out of him is false.

I could equally point out Joe Cole, Fernando Morientes & Paul Ince as examples of players at 28/29 who had nothing left in the tank.

Milner is an outlier because of how dedicated he was to his own fitness.

27 Apr 2026 08:17:38
I understand Victor, but Bayern bought a 29-year-old Harry Kane and could win the Champions League off it.

You need to do your research on these signings, but I think we need players of this age group too to keep experience within our squad.

The right characters that can still play 3 years at the top and provide leadership to the next wave.

We only really have Van Dijk and Ali left as proper leaders after this season. Maybe Dom. A far cry when we had 6-7 captains in the side.

27 Apr 2026 09:15:14
Buying older world class players to get 2 or 3 good years out of them is not a bad idea, but Bowen is a good player - not a world class player. If he was cheap and happy to sit on the bench, then I'd take him for a few years, but I can't imagine either of those things would be the case.

He's missed his chance to move to a big club. If they go down, I wouldn't be surprised to see him stay there. Failing that, I can see him moving to a mid-table PL team where he can still make a difference.

27 Apr 2026 09:16:25
It depends on what you want to get out of them.

RVP to United was a good purchase in the sense that he helped them win a Prem. but across his career they were a bad purchase and you could say he was indicative of their downfall, and 1 last hurrah for SAF.

Silva was a great player, I don't think he was that great at Chelsea. He often hamstrung how they could play. A lot of which was sitting deep and countering when a team full of that much youth and flair should have been pressing and attacking.

Again though, getting him for free, you can argue he was a decent pick up.

I think we got Gary Mac at 35 winning the treble? I think he was also a free.

Much of the value in getting Bowen would be on any fee paid. For a player who was CF/winger who relies a lot on pace, paying a premium for an English lad for HG status, anything over £30m is a waste. I think I could live with depreciating that value with no resale over 4 years. Anything over £30 and West Ham have seen the suitor coming a mile off.

27 Apr 2026 09:22:23
Actually quite surprised by Bowen's stats.

He has 44 goals and 31 assists in his last 3 seasons.

27 Apr 2026 09:45:14
Regards Kane, Van Persie and others. It's a bit like saying "we must sign a marquee player" or "we must spend 'x' amount to compete".

The truth is more nuanced than that, and the recruitment needs to fit the needs of the club at the time, and the direction we are headed in.

27 Apr 2026 11:03:17
75 goals in last 5 years for Bowen. Outscoring the likes of Saka and Mbuemo in that time. Cracking little player. Should be all over him if the Hammers go down.

26 Apr 2026 12:15:32
Romano, whatever you think of him, saying there will be an end-of-season review before decisions are made, Slot has not yet been told he'll be let go and that Liverpool have not had any talks with Alonso.

I don't agree with that last part whatsoever, but I thought it was an interesting take.

How would you feel if it turned out we never actually made a move for Alonso and the club was genuinely backing Slot for next season the whole time? Would it change your view on FSG and their ownership?

26 Apr 2026 12:35:11
Chewy, Romano is not worth any serious person's time, tbh.

26 Apr 2026 12:52:31
FSG touched lucky getting Klopp, the club value went from about 600 million to reports of 4 billion£. Doesn't matter how you play it another 12 months of this ( crap unsuccessful bland football ) will devalue that. We need the right manager one who improves players and the team and that's not Slot.

26 Apr 2026 12:56:58
Hence why I said "whatever you think of him". Personally, I don't think much of him myself, and he certainly isn't a source for insider information regarding Liverpool, like I said, I don't agree with it at all, but I just thought it was an interesting take.

26 Apr 2026 13:17:55
I could accept the "transition" season if there were any signs of us getting better or the fact that we were awful for last few months of last season.
FSG can't be blind, if they have seen us play for majority of this season they must have seen how poor we have been & that Slot has failed to address the issue.
Many rival fans might look and say a title & CL football next is great return, but I'd say the title was won after the ground work had been laid & after the huge outlay in the summer, the slow build up play clearly does not suit most of them.

Especially Isak, who needs the ball in behind or from the flanks.
Is Slot the right man to get the best out of this squad & the man who's going to take the club forward. To me the answer to that is no.

26 Apr 2026 13:24:22
Probably a mixture of half truths and guesswork. What I will say is that Slot looks like a weight has been lifted these last few press conferences. It could be that there is relief about our league position or there is already clarity on his future.

If he does end up staying, then let's hope he has learnt a lot from this season and gets us playing properly again.

26 Apr 2026 13:33:15
This is Michael Edwards' world, and all of the journos are living in it. The price of access and genuine exclusives.

I remain stable in my delusion that Slot leaves by mutual consent at the end of the season and becomes the Ajax coach next season.

26 Apr 2026 14:01:09
Romano, by and large, plays safe these days and doesn't post any of his juicy insider info until it's basically public knowledge.

So, we can expect a "Here we go!" from him on our new manager about 20 minutes into the press conference where the club formally unveils him.

26 Apr 2026 14:01:31
Am I missing something? I'm not sure what influence Edwards has on the running of the club. I will stand corrected. Personally, I couldn't care less about him. I never heard his name mentioned once, yesterday.

26 Apr 2026 14:13:17
Rome1977 - "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" - Usual Suspects regarding Keyser Soze.

26 Apr 2026 14:42:18
Nice one, FPF!

26 Apr 2026 17:56:52
I've always been of the opinion that the decisions will be made at the end of the season.

However, I don't believe the comment about not talking to other managers.

They probably don't talk directly with managers, that's now how things work, but they will definitely be talking to agents.

26 Apr 2026 20:41:09
We've just won three games in a row and had improved performances. Far too many people on here criticising wins, in what is a tough league.

26 Apr 2026 21:19:52
Which improved performances are you talking about, @Hessle?

26 Apr 2026 22:44:34
Wouldn't change my perspective regarding football matters because FSG don't run the football operations.

Whatever happens, I am sure there will be loads of finger pointing and accusations based on pure speculation that people here will use as iron clad evidence to base their argument.

27 Apr 2026 01:26:26
We've played without our starting goalkeeper (and at the weekend without our second choice keeper), our starting right back (Bradley), most of the season without our starting striker, and, latterly, our second choice starting CF, and we've won our last three games, which has seen us move into joint 3rd, 4th and 5th, whilst under intense scrutiny and pressure. It's not all bad.

27 Apr 2026 06:13:41
I'll kick it off, Oli.

Undefeated in 3.
The streak resumes.

27 Apr 2026 06:38:27
Four more years! Each win gets Slot an extra season to his contract.

27 Apr 2026 03:25:41
Liverpool to finish 4th
Good win against Palace and deserved.
Ed 025 I'm liking your predictions mate you were close on Saturday too
What the score for the weekend against the Mancs then?

{Ed025's Note - it will be the 3rd place play off for me Hughesy, im torn between a draw and a very narrow win for Liverpool mate, if i put my neck on the line though im going for 2-1 to the pool and Gakpo to either score or assist..

27 Apr 2026 11:18:19
@JLC, It's won 3, and as a fan, I'm thinking it's a lot better than lost the last 3. Wouldn't you agree?

26 Apr 2026 11:46:46
I would like to congratulate Curtis Jones for finally showing he is worthy of a place on the Liverpool team.
Curtis has taken to right back like he has played there all his career. Also, he has been doing things we fans have been screaming about since he broke into the team, that is go forward attacking and passing the ball forward.

He has defended well. He could be the answer to Trent. He has the passing range. I really think Curtis has found his position, plus it would save the club millions to invest in other positions.
Having not been a fan of Curtis, I have to take my hat off to him. He does have the ability and I was wrong.
My apologies Curtis Jones

26 Apr 2026 12:06:57
He has done well at RB the last few games, that's for sure.

26 Apr 2026 12:10:43
He's not great positionally, defensively at RB, but to be fair that comes with experience. He's definitely done a job, and it means Szob is in midfield, so it works for the team as a whole.

26 Apr 2026 12:33:47
He's done well. But he plays the position like he's playing centre midfield, which is understandable of course.

Eg. Cruyff turns and one twos on the edge of his own box, making square passes across the box.

Things that you get away with in midfield and help open up half spaces, but are very risky at right back.

26 Apr 2026 12:34:29
Am not sold on that one, his refusal to give the ball early, I think, against top teams will be a problem.

26 Apr 2026 12:42:05
Jones certainly grew into the game, but there were still lapses of concentration and dallying on the ball that have been apparent since his emergence as a first teamer. A talented player, though. However, for him to develop, he does need to be a regular starter, rather than a rotational option. The lad clearly has ambitions, and he is not the standard required at Liverpool to be a starter, so it makes sense for him to leave.

My only concern is that we will now have zero scousers in the Liverpool team. I know that isn't a massive issue to some people, but throughout my entire life I have seen a scouser represent Liverpool's first team, either as a strong starter or at least an option. With Trent gone and Jones looking to leave, there will be no one. Never seen a scouser-less Liverpool side, and honestly don't think I want to.

26 Apr 2026 12:58:38
He's our new Milner (utility player). Was he not left of a front 3 before being played in mf? Hard for him to get a game when Mane, Diaz and Gakpo are in there. Good squad member, I wouldn't sell him.

26 Apr 2026 13:40:33
Amazing what a couple of half decent performances by Curtis at RB show us:

1. That Frimpong was a strange profile of signing to replace Trent.
2. That we could have been playing Curtis there all along instead of pulling Szobo out of midfield to the detriment of the midfield and Salah.

Btw, many fans have been asking for Curtis at RB all season over taking Dom out of midfield. This is not a surprise finding.

26 Apr 2026 13:59:48
I don't think Frimpong was to replace Trent. I think he's a utility player to fill in on right wing and RB. I think Bradley was our starting RB, but got crocked. I think Gomez was first choice RB backup, but has been in and out with injuries.

Frimpong just isn't an EPL RB, just not sound enough defensively, but handy squad member.

It shouldn't be overlooked that the "Szob or Jones" argument only came up because we were 3 RB's short for large parts of the season. It's not been an easy season as far as squad availability goes (but poor fitness coaching and lack of rotation when possible have definitely contributed to this).

26 Apr 2026 14:18:05
Frimpong is a rb signed to replace an outgoing rb in Trent. Sounds like a replacement to me, regardless of their differing abilities or roles in the system.

Bradley and Gomez being unavailable for a large part of the season should not really be a surprise to anyone.

If we go into next season with the same three, we will be having the same mind numbing conversation again and some people will be acting surprised again.

26 Apr 2026 15:50:23
Jones is a good player with a high football IQ. His ability to learn new positions that go against his natural attacking instinct shows that. Is he perfect in those positions? No, but he has shown he can play them to a decent level. People forget when he broke into the team he was LW/AM, a similar style of player to Coutinho if you will.

Klopp turned him into a multifunctional midfielder and Slot has now turned him into a RB. You need players like that in the squad.

From talking to him recently, I wouldn't be surprised if he signed a new contract regardless of guaranteed game time. Although I've told him to go to Italy and try something different. 😂

26 Apr 2026 15:57:24
Cheers, Thefields.

I would like to keep Curtis around if a deal can be done. Important to have a Scouser around. He's been unlucky to not get more game time while watching Macca and Gravy stink the place out every week.

But, wouldn't begrudge him first team football elsewhere either.

26 Apr 2026 16:22:25
FPF, that is one of the reasons people have been calling him a trouble causer this season. He wasn't happy with not starting in midfield when they have been poor and he let people know that. Meaning his attitude was called into question.

26 Apr 2026 16:55:40
Makes sense, Thefields. Thanks!

26 Apr 2026 17:21:06
Whilst I like Jones at rb, as he others transition from defence to midfield, to judge after only two games is way too premature. He is not naturally defensive minded, and has a lot of work to do on his game, as someone else said, he does have a tendency to take unnecessary risks.

I certainly think he can do a job there and offers us something different.

26 Apr 2026 19:53:15
He lost the ball and nearly gave a goal doing a Cruyff turn when hemmed in yesterday.
He does this every game. He thinks he's better than he is. He'll only ever be a squad player for me.

26 Apr 2026 22:45:42
It's like when Klopp struggled all season and fluffed around with the defence until he figured it out late to help us earn top 4.

Looks like Slot will do the same.

27 Apr 2026 01:08:56
The big difference was JK's whole defence was decimated by injuries. AS has had an abundance of talent given to him and doesn't know what to do with it.

27 Apr 2026 02:00:20
Alison has been out injured for two or three extended periods this season, Marma is out injured, Bradley is out injured for the season, Leoni is out injured for the season, Gomez has been out injured for three or four extended periods, as has Frimpong.

The only three who haven't been out for an extended period are VVD, Kerkez and Konate (although he has missed some games).

We also have Robbo but he hasn't been called on often because he sadly hasn't got the legs anymore.

I have to say @Grinch, we've had our fair share of injuries in defence this season.

27 Apr 2026 06:38:37
You need guys like Jones in a squad. Ultimately he may want a move for more playing time and that is up to him. But, like Elliot, who should have stayed, players like them are like gold for a club trying to challenge on all fronts.

You can't have a team of prime aged players in their prime and ready to hit their prime from the bench.

You need a variety of players and experiences. I'd definitely keep him.

27 Apr 2026 09:51:07
GrinchRed, I agree it's not exactly the same but it's not the polar opposite.

Fitness at RB, including Gomez, has been inconsistent all season.

We've pretty much only been able to play Konate and VVD as a CB the entire season. That hasn't been great, especially when Konate was playing like Konami for the first two thirds of the season.

27 Apr 2026 10:33:22
For the Reds that are not in agreement over Curtis, I respect your opinions. But I would like to point out that Curtis has done really well in the RB position. It is not like he is playing in Sunday league, he is playing in the Premier League, and to be put into a position which is not his preferred position and play as well as Curtis has, shows his adaptability and skill to perform at that level. Yes, may do these turns, but that is part of his skill factor as a midfield player and will no doubt be told by the coach not to try that in dangerous positions.

He will learn as he goes along. But come on Reds, the lad has done well, give him some backing. We are all in a situation where we are complaining about all the players, even lads who have been at the club five minutes, our frustration is there for all to see. YNWA

26 Apr 2026 11:13:09
Question for the Eds (and obviously welcome everyone's thoughts)

Do you think potential new managers/head coaches could be put off joining as a result of the set up behind the scenes?

If Edwards and Hughes are "interviewing" new managers and it is clear through these conversations that the two are remaining in post- I think that could put off potential first team head coaches

I know that the set up is not unfamiliar in modern day football but any manager and their agent will surely want assurances that they way they want to set up, and play, aligns with Edwards and Hughes.

Wasn't Edwards over-extending himself when Klopp was here one of the reasons he left the club before returning?

I worry that having those two in position will put off the type of manager we want, and is that now manifesting itself in more "noise" around Slot staying on next season.

{Ed001's Note - yes, simply because Edwards role is not clearly delineated. The job he was meant to be doing does not exist, so he is interfering within the club without any remit or limits on what he is involved with. That is a big red flag to anyone. It is like having one of those mad old chairmen that used to pick the teams etc. Nobody wants to work under those structures, they want to know that they can do their job without interference.}

26 Apr 2026 11:52:37
I cannot see them two letting a new manager have the run of the playing side edd1 they have to protect their positions after the fiasco of this season anywhere else they would have been sacked but there is still time for that to happen. YNWA

26 Apr 2026 11:59:19
I've given up the idea of Alonso because of Edwards and Hughes potentially staying.

I think the two muppets only leave if FSG sack them, but I don't think FSG have the balls, or maybe the understanding, to do so.

The likes of Alonso and Enrique (if he ever became available) wouldn't work under Edwards and Hughes in their current capacity, in my opinion.

My guess is we stick with Slot next season or get someone like Hoeness in. I'd take the latter as I think Slot has done all he can already and we need a change now.

26 Apr 2026 12:36:16
"I don't think FSG have the balls, or maybe the understanding, to do so."

I agree with this. I think they trust Edwards highly, hence why they bought him back in a more senior capacity.

I can't see them being close enough to the football side to over rule him on football aspects. In that regard, I think they are quite hands off.

26 Apr 2026 13:50:25
I don't know how true it is but I did read that Edwards is on 10 million a year. So, I would think one of the 2 will be leaving at least. Can't be paying out that much to someone who no longer has a job with a purpose anymore.

26 Apr 2026 13:50:27
I think the amount of business that is still required this summer is definitely one half of why they are still pumping out the "we are one" propaganda. (The other half being keeping the current squad focused on the minimum objective of CL qualification).

Not an ITK, but my money is on Slot announcing his departure by mutual consent at the end of the season, Hughes completing the summer's recruitment business before announcing his departure in September.

With Edwards, much depends on FSG's decision on multi-club. It seems they still want to do it but are not pursuing it at the moment due to economic uncertainty. However, if one of the 10s of clubs they have performed due diligence on become more financially distressed and offer an opportunity, don't rule out an acquisition.

But who knows. Maybe they all stay. Maybe they all leave. It's all just speculation at this point.

26 Apr 2026 18:10:43
100% - months ago I said Edwards/Hughes would likely have to go in order to bring Xabi in. They have all the control, and anybody with half a brain can see there's a complete disconnect between the execs and the coaching when it comes to a vision for the direction this team needs to go in terms of an effective system when you look at the summer signings. Potential managers will be very aware of this, and it will massively affect their decision to come on board. Edwards is ideally looking for a yes man, which I believe could be detrimental to the club's progress for obvious reasons.

I am, however, hopeful that FSG is wary of this situation, as nobody has been offered a new contract yet. Fingers crossed it stays that way. Many people really will not want to hear this, but if Edwards/Hughes jobs are currently safe, in the long run, it may actually be beneficial for Slot to stay on, continue to struggle, and for all 3 muppets to get the sack next season.

If a new manager comes in now and we get that bounce, we're only deluding ourselves, we'll still have the disconnect between the overly controlling Edwards, his hand puppet and the head coach, and I can't ever see that not being an issue.

Hopefully it doesn't come to that and FSG are already looking to replace Slot this summer and the other 2 during the course of the next year. Unfortunately the optics of replacing all 3 in one fell swoop are not good; it makes the club look unstable, so as much as I want it, I don't see it happening.

26 Apr 2026 21:22:43
"The job he was meant to be doing does not exist, so he is interfering within the club without any remit or limits on what he is involved with."

This is gonna be a real problem. I promise you that.

27 Apr 2026 02:02:29
It already is @Oli, it's a big contributing factor in our epic decline this season.

26 Apr 2026 09:59:47
Internet stories about Slot getting another season.

I am annoyed. What are the thoughts of others...?

Another season of backwards passing snooze fest.
FSG... Up to you. If that is what you want.

26 Apr 2026 10:34:47
If Slot stays, there ain't a lot I can do about it and I certainly won't be happy. I'll just have to get on with it and back the squad.

26 Apr 2026 10:39:42
If Slot stays, the ticket price increases are the least of the owners' worries.

26 Apr 2026 11:59:41
There was a passage of play yesterday that sums up Slot's coaching. Vvd passed the ball to Robbo, he ran ten yards, passed it to Gapko, who cut inside, passed it back to Slobz, who passed to Salah, who passed it to Jones. We are now on the edge of their penalty area.

Jones turns back, passes to Konate, he passes it to Vvd, who passes it to Woody in goal, attack finished. So we went from our penalty area to their penalty area, back to our own penalty area. This happened in the first half. This is Slot football.

26 Apr 2026 23:10:42
I wouldn't mind.
I'd watch for the journey and progression of the team post-Mo.

27 Apr 2026 07:23:42
Behave Faith, Mo has missed a tonne of games due to injuries, AFCON and simply being benched and we've been woeful.

27 Apr 2026 09:54:03
Interesting stat of the day - without Mo this PL season we're undefeated.

26 Apr 2026 09:30:01
Ed001 your thoughts on Woodman in goal.
I would rather him be our number 2 that Mamma.
Thought the ref was wrong not to stop the game yesterday considering he stopped it in the first half when Johnson had a shot fell over and stayed down holding his shoulder stop us breaking.

{Ed001's Note - firstly the game should not have been stopped either time and the team was guilty of amateur hour defending. Every kid is taught to play to the whistle, there is no excuse for them to just stand and watch trying to hold an offside line when there is no keeper.

Woodman seemed ok, better suited to our game than Mamardashvili but it is just one game.}

26 Apr 2026 09:55:32
Woodman had a good game and he'll remember the reception he got for the rest of his career. However, I wouldn't be making him our number 2 on the back of 1 performance.

Also, on yesterday's showing, his kicking is no better than Mama's.

26 Apr 2026 10:02:20
Crowd were great with him yesterday. Made him feel 10 feet tall, I'm sure.

I tend to agree, the rest of the Liverpool players should have played to the whistle.

But, it was frustrating in the stadium because of how willing the ref was to stop the game several times before that point for almost no reason (i.e. not a foul or a head injury).

26 Apr 2026 10:11:52
Woodman is a very good number 3. Ticks all the boxes, experienced, competent, and, importantly, home grown. Didn't feel the same panic as when Adrian used to step in. Can say that. Made some very good saves, and overall was a calm presence. I'm sure he'd rather have occasional days like that than be kicking around in League One or League Two.

26 Apr 2026 10:05:30
Yeah I am with you on the game should not be stopped Ed but when the ref has already done in twice Ed for outfield players can't just change the way your reffing the game.
As for the keeper it is only one game but every time Mamma has played I feel like am back in time and Mignolet is in goal again. Am not sold of Freddie as I've not seen enough of him Ed but I would definitely have him in as backup with the choice of them 2.

Just a relief Ed that we are nearly there for champions league football for next season can't wait till this season is over and hope next season brings better football to watch more than anything been so hard to watch this season struggle to get to good games you can count on one hand this season.

{Ed001's Note - the ref is in charge, you play to the whistle, that is on the players allowing the goal to go in. No one tried to close him down even. It is embarrassing, like a bunch of schoolboys who don't know the rules. Your whining about the ref, but he blew the whistle those times, he didn't this time, sorry but players trying to referee the game is a far bigger problem than the ref himself.

I have made it plain what I think of Mamardashvili, should never have been bought, but that does not mean Woodman is the answer. I would defo keep him as 3rd choice though at least and replace Mama.}

26 Apr 2026 11:32:32
I'd love us to bring Khelleher back, we didn't miss Alison as much when we had Khelleher. Maybe we will move for him when Alison eventually leaves.

26 Apr 2026 11:42:44
Kelleher isn't good enough to become our new No1. He deputised admirably when he stepped up, but, in my opinion, we should be looking elsewhere when Alisson looks to leave. Also, I'm not anti Mama, like a lot of folk. There are certainly a lot worse back up keepers out there.

26 Apr 2026 11:48:42
Ref was correct to play on. We didn't play to the whistle. Stood about watching, our defence knew the keeper was down, whatever is happening, the first thought is to cover the goalkeeper, stop a shot being taken, then see how the keeper is.
We did none of the above.

26 Apr 2026 12:02:34
Rome Woody's kick was far better than Mama's, mate. Never seen a problem all match with his kicking. I think you're being a bit harsh on the lad, really. YNWA

26 Apr 2026 13:53:13
I'm a harsh git, Albey. A lot of Woodman's kicks out went to a Palace player. As I say, no better than Mama's.

I was chuffed for him, and I would have confidence in him stepping up again, but there is room for improvement in his kicking.

I speak as someone who's played a round of golf with his dad, which is hardly a claim to fame, I know!

{Ed025's Note - but did you beat him Rome?..

26 Apr 2026 13:54:01
Keep Alisson for one more season, flip Marmardashvilli, and sign Robin Risser from Lens. Keep Woodman as a 3rd choice, if he is up for it. If Jaros recovers strongly, make him our no2 after Alisson leaves next summer.

26 Apr 2026 14:53:42
It's so long ago, Ed025, I can't remember. Given how crap I am, probably not!

Forgive me for sharing a boring story. I played Andy Woodman, Alan Smith, the ex Palace manager, and a mate of mine, making up a foursome. It was a golfing event in Tiverton, as Palace were playing a non league side, who my mate played for. Before we started Alan Smith turned to me and said "do you want that bloke there to carry your clubs? " I said "no, you're alright." That bloke was Stan Collymore. This was way before he went on to beat up Ukrika Jonson.

{Ed025's Note - great story Rome..

26 Apr 2026 23:12:20
Can Woodman just be a very good #3 and be recognized for that?

Barely plays, be a great team mate, help Stas do extras, play absolutely when needed.

What's this talk of "oh he did well but he's not a number 2"?

He's a good #3 and is perfect for that role.

26 Apr 2026 01:32:13
Ed001, you probably know this stat because I don't, but I don't think I've seen Gakpo win more headers in a single game than today. Just something I noticed and thought I'd share.

{Ed001's Note - this is the problem with stats, most of them are just made up and false. Did he win more headers? I have no idea. Even so, is there context to it? Was he up against players that are particularly weak in the air? Did he have more balls at head height to try and win than normal? And so on and so on. It is just as pointless as xG, which doesn't take into account the position of opponents or what player has the ball at his feet, the two most important things involved in whether it will be scored. Utter trash stat.}

26 Apr 2026 10:04:10
I have to say he played on our side in the second half and he won everything that was kicked up to him, which, when you're trying to play with Wirtz up top, was desperately needed.

Can't remember which Palace player he was up against, though.

He actually had a decent game yesterday, I thought.

26 Apr 2026 10:40:22
Navy, he was up against Munoz, who was being rated as one of the best RBs in the league last year. If it wasn't Munoz, then Richards was coming across. A beast of a bloke.

26 Apr 2026 11:59:08
Ed, xG has got to be the most overrated stat ever. Nowadays, everybody who's supposed to be an expert in football keeps talking about xG this, xG that like it's some kind of holy grail. Even some managers bring up xG just to justify that they were unlucky to lose or draw. When that happens, you know your team is cooked.

{Ed001's Note - I detest it as it is utter nonsense. The position on the pitch a shot is taken from is literally the only thing taken into account, when it is such a small part of it most of the time. There are so many other things, not just the positioning of all other players and who is taking the shot, but also which body part is being used, the speed of the ball etc etc.}

26 Apr 2026 16:24:05
I don't actually understand xG, I must admit.

26 Apr 2026 17:27:23
XG is basically a ratio or percentage of high quality chances, so if you have an xG of 1, that should be an indicator that the team should score/scored one goal... Say we lost a game 1-0, but we had a higher xG, the statistician would say, but we had higher xG, so typically we would have won. I hope that makes sense.

26 Apr 2026 18:02:32
Thanks MoT! Maybe it's me, but how do you have an xG going into a game? Isn't that a thing too?

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