Liverpool banter 8

30 Nov 2025 10:27:11
How much time do you give MO he has been one of the worst players so far this season. he should of been sold at the end of last season when he was at his peak.

People did say this in the build up to his new contract . I am not having a go at MO he has been outstanding since he came to the club but father time catches up with us all.
YNWA.

30 Nov 2025 09:55:52
I wouldn't even play him, he's been a passenger all season so far.

30 Nov 2025 09:58:11
Hindsight is great, generally you don't sell players at their peak if you want to win things. He is still our top scorer this season whilst being poor, says a lot about the team in general.
I think this season will be his last, but he will still have some match winning moments.

30 Nov 2025 10:09:20
Problem was the clubs poor planning gave us no choice, either renew to get some money back or let him waltz out the door for nothing.

But you could counteract that by saying if he was renewed sooner, you probably don’t get his performance last season and without him we wouldn’t win the league.

I am very much of the opinion the summer was built without Mo in mind, so the sooner he goes the sooner it allows us to build the next evolution of the team. With AFCON around the corner I wouldn’t be against him going in Jan.

30 Nov 2025 10:10:54
Context is important - he is stuck at the right but he isn't getting any support. It is a systemic flaw not a personal one.

30 Nov 2025 10:11:33
He’s off to AFCON in two weeks so we can see what life without him is like for a bit.

Personally, I think he’s been impacted by the summer events and that physically he’s not much different to last season. Add to that the constant changes in personnel behind him and crumby tactics, it’s no surprise really.

30 Nov 2025 10:17:50
The many changes in our set up have affected Mo more than most. Last season he told Slot ' I will win you the league if you let me do my thing' Slot agreed and the rest is history.

This season we've lost Nunez and Diaz WR and Trents passing, not to mention the other passing that occurred.

Mo needs to be a CF now and or play less/ move to a slower league.

30 Nov 2025 10:50:41
Needs to be dropped does very little at the moment.

30 Nov 2025 12:09:13
The speed in which we play gives the opposition time to get back in numbers Mo with great players like Bobby and mane could dribble past 3-4 players now with the static way we play he gets doubled up on before he’s received the ball and lack of movement from us around him he’s got nothing or no one.

A prime Thierry Henry would struggle in this set up and look crap.

30 Nov 2025 17:42:51
Salah announces he's signed a new contract in April and we try to sell him a couple of months later?
Yeah, that's how it works 😑.

30 Nov 2025 08:59:13
my line-up, not a prediction just what I'd like to see.
based on available players and assumes fitness of those available.

Alli
Jones
Gomez
VVD
Robbo
Endo
Grav
Dom
Mo
Ekitike
Chiesa

Midfield would be base of Endo as a 6 and Grav as a 6/ 8 with Dom our 8/ 10 everything man.

Isak can start if Ekitike isn't available, otherwise he should come off the bench. and it is nigh on time to spell Gakpo.

In defense, I would have started Ramsay but see he is on U21 duty for some reason, so that rules him out. I'm off the Konate train, so he is in the stands, therefore Smokin' Joe starts and Rhys Williams is the option off the bench

macca, Wirtz (hopefully), Isak, Gakpo, Rio, Nyoni, WIlliams is a decent enough looking bench

Hoping to see some fight from the lads. they've had more than enough 'bad moments' to bounce back from, just need to see it.

so let's see it lads, come on!

30 Nov 2025 09:18:08
Endo is not the most skilful player . but when we are getting run ragged in midfield, he is perfect to put his body on the line, how he hasn't played any games is a travesty. Gomez should have been in ages ago, even if he does throw the odd howler in, it will be a lot less than bambi on ice Konate.

30 Nov 2025 09:40:27
Rhys Williams? I had to chuckle.

30 Nov 2025 09:59:35
I also hope for a few changes but Rhys Williams shouldn't be anywhere near the first team. The Ramsay one seems odd as our only fit RB.

30 Nov 2025 10:41:44
I’d rather have the long-dead Kenneth Williams on the bench. At least it would unsettle the opposition coaches.

30 Nov 2025 17:48:16
Endo is not big enough or quick enough to be perfect for putting his body on the line.
Even if the other midfielders can't or don't do it at least they are more technically gifted than Endo.
He just isn't a top level PL player. He wouldn't be starting at City, Arsenal or Chelsea. However weak we are in midfield, Endo is not the answer.

30 Nov 2025 09:37:20
Big game today, the table although not brilliant could look a lot better with a win and then again against Sunderland. Can anyone remember the last time Grav did his somewhat signature drop the shoulder and turn a man when picking the ball up from defence?

30 Nov 2025 09:30:51
Never mind signature drop the shoulder can anyone remember the last time he put a tackle in.

30 Nov 2025 09:43:48
A lot of the time now the other team stands off Grav in the center circle and retreats back into their own third while his team mates bound up the field with them, and then he's lost trying to figure out what to do with the ball when he's left with it.

I'm sure he'd love it if the other team pressed us in midfield and he could go through the lines to pick a pass to the free man.

30 Nov 2025 10:41:38
Haven’t seen him since last season tbh.

30 Nov 2025 08:45:32
Any idea if it will be Kerkez or Robbo being asked to play the old “inside-left” position today?

30 Nov 2025 08:21:19
Who knows mate. Last week against Forrest we somehow managed to play Szobo and Jones both at right back 😂🤷🏻‍♂️.

30 Nov 2025 08:34:03
This might sound daft, but if we're intent on inverting our wing backs, surely they should swap sides? I would want them coming onto their favoured foot, one of the many reasons why I don't think it works.
Robertson has to start regardless.

29 Nov 2025 23:53:32
Hi Ed,

I’ve seen Enrique from PSG mentioned a lot in the press, would he come? And in your opinion how would he do?

{Ed001's Note - I think he is the best possible choice, but I don't believe there is any way that he is going to force his way out of his contract and no way will PSG let him go. But that is the dream choice. He is probably the best head coach in footie right now.}

30 Nov 2025 03:58:48
PSG lost yesterday. in the "Farmers" league.

Hopefully the pitch-forks are out and Enrique sees the light that LFC is the place for him.

All jokes aside. Enrique is probably the best choice, purely because of the style that he plays. Very exciting and very direct.

30 Nov 2025 05:38:07
Ed, is he a more strict manager or lenient type of manager? I feel we do need a strict kind of manager who won't tolerate the kind of bulls**t the players are showing right now. Because it feels like most of the players didn't even bother to show some kind of fight when we badly need it.

They show up, let opposition score and cruise around and later post something on social media about "unity" and "sticking together in tough time".

{Ed001's Note - he is similar to Klopp, he inspires his players but he can be strict when needed.}

30 Nov 2025 08:47:38
Enrique is class, but impossible to get out of PSG right now, maybe at the end of the season at earliest?

30 Nov 2025 10:23:44
Enrique would be my no1 choice and I’d be happy to keep Slot or bring in an interim (if untenable) for the rest of the season in order to make that happen.

Xabi Alonso would be my second preference should his time at Real be short.

After that perhaps Hansi Flick if his time at Barcelona ends.

Beyond that, Iraola, Hoeness, Fabregas and Hurzeler would come with some risk.

I’m not a fan of Glasner and De Zerbi might be a bit too volatile for our club.

29 Nov 2025 23:41:51
Born in Formby, but live in Vancouver now. Tomorrow’s game is on at 6am here. If I wake up and the team line-up is the same as the last game I’m going to go back to sleep. Never done that before.

30 Nov 2025 03:59:42
I wonder what the odds are that he plays the same lineup?

Excl the goalkeeper position.

30 Nov 2025 06:11:00
Absolutely don't blame you Stoneage. If it's the same lineup which it probably will I'll give it the 1st half then bed as I'm on night duty this weekend.

30 Nov 2025 06:50:25
Ashamed to say but I've been doing the same. See the lineup hasn't changed so I don't bother watching. Last time I did this was the Hodgson era.

30 Nov 2025 07:23:06
I don’t not watch but I’ve just come to the point where I hope we lose so he goes. Because the longer he lasts the worse it is for us long term.
Surely if we lose to West Ham today that is it because over the past 3 years they have been the worst team I’ve seen no fight in them no pace so am hoping bad day today ends this crap so we can move on and make a challenge for the champions league in the new year.

{Ed025's Note - surely no matter how bad it gets you dont want your team to lose Grino?, i can see that you dont like your manager mate but thats a bit extreme for me my friend..

30 Nov 2025 08:38:21
Never acceptable to want your team to lose, regardless of the reasons.

30 Nov 2025 08:53:57
I find that kind of attitude really odd.

the odds are that if we change manager mid-season that we don't succeed for a while. maybe we get a short term bounce, but can anyone point to where a manage change mid-season has then gone on to sustained success in the PL? Other than Klopp. is there another one of him floating about twiddling thumbs?

and the other thing is that it becomes counter-intuitive to what SLot is trying to achieve, what we want. I just don't get that kind of thinking at all.

30 Nov 2025 08:30:15
Grino, you're not a supporter if you hope we lose. Entitled to your opinion.

I couldn't care less what our line up is, I'll be watching us, and will be there on Wednesday.

30 Nov 2025 10:14:05
I'll be honest, even under Roy I never wanted us to lose, I can't fathom why anybody would want their team to lose.

30 Nov 2025 11:21:26
I don’t want us to lose but under slot we are going backwards so fast that if something does not change quickly the season is going to be over. We are already out of the league and one cup and the way we are playing I don’t fancy us to win anyone at the minute.
I feel with the run we are on Slot should have gone after Forest but even after the PSV game he is still here so richard hughes and michael edwards are sleep walking us to nothing by letting this go on so I don’t want a few wins then back to how we are now and it is clear as day Slot is not going to change and under him we are struggling to compete physically.

30 Nov 2025 08:30:15
Grino, you're not a supporter if you hope we lose. Entitled to your opinion.

I couldn't care less what our line up is, I'll be watching us, and will be there on Wednesday.

30 Nov 2025 08:49:16
Ed025 short term pain long term gain. If we get a few good results with this run of games it could be a disaster because he could end up getting more than a couple more games to lose.
I never want us to lose Ed but I think for the bigger picture a defeat today will hopefully end this because it is not working and it’s not just the run we are in now it’s been going on since February.


Also Ed it’s not that I don’t like Slot he comes across as a nice guy and there is nothing more I would like than it work out for him.
Brendon Rodger’s I could not stand the man there was something about him that I could not stand even Roy Hodgson is a nice guy so it’s only Rodger’s I did not like but the sooner Slots time comes to an end the better for all parties.

{Ed025's Note - wanting a change of manager Grino is something i can live with mate, but wanting your team to lose whatever the circumstances is just not on my friend, i do get your frustration but there are lines that should not be crossed and this is one of them for me, i do respect you as a poster though otherwise i would have just deleted your first post..

30 Nov 2025 17:53:21
If we had lost and Slot had gone, we get a new manager and win every game by playing entertaining football.
Yeah, that's how it works 😑.

29 Nov 2025 22:35:27
Would Luis Enrique be a good fit? Would he relish the challenge of going up against Pep and co in the Prem?

29 Nov 2025 21:45:50
Yep. He is the one. He and his family absolutely hate it in Paris.

29 Nov 2025 22:56:52
I'd love to see it, but I can't see it happening.

29 Nov 2025 23:03:02
Maybe he would want to come to the premier league but he won't come to Liverpool, at least, not now.

People need to remember that Enrique's contract ends in 2027 and there is almost no chance that PSG will negotiate for his contract.

There is more chance for Alonso with all the noise at Real Madrid.

30 Nov 2025 08:54:23
I can see Enrqiue taking over from Pep.

29 Nov 2025 19:29:30
Ok ed 001, let’s get it from the horse mouth, how do you see the way forward, surely the players must have some input to how they play, if my boss asked me to work in a way that didn’t suit me surely my supervisor could ( eg Virgil) have a word and change things, in my line of work we have an MDT every day to discuss how the team is functioning and any concerns are discussed, all the best.

{Ed001's Note - I would agree that the players should have an opportunity to discuss tactics and how their game is affected, but that should happen as a matter of course. I think it is probably too late for anything to save Slotmnow though.}

29 Nov 2025 20:39:49
Cheers ed, I know you have to have some sort of backbone in any industry when managing any team, I know people can be stubborn and we all must have experienced it at some degree but if you can’t change systems or listen to other’s voices or views clearly the outcomes are negative, anyway up the reds, good luck vs the hammers, all the best everyone, stay safe ✊🏻.

30 Nov 2025 00:43:50
Intel design, 'Supervisor Virgil' should worry about his own poor performances before flapping his trap and finger pointing and yelling at other players like he currently does on the field, before he starts discussing tactics and how they play.

30 Nov 2025 05:05:30
Hate to agree with you on this Brisbane, but hard to argue. Virg was a rolls royce of defenders, but that was maybe 3-4 years ago. Is he complacent, switched off, unhappy with the quality around him, the manager?

29 Nov 2025 19:12:27
Anyway Everton are getting battered. Hehe silver lining
Soz Ed25. I have to get comfort from somewhere 🤷‍♂️.

{Ed025's Note - we were lucky it was only 4-1 Chrisy..

29 Nov 2025 19:26:18
The way we are playing I don't dare say anything until after our game. It feels like if you enjoy a rival losing we raise it by dropping a stinker of a performance!

29 Nov 2025 19:59:42
Newcastle looked v good in fairness. They have the 2 best full backs in the league imo and woltemade looks excellent player.

30 Nov 2025 04:02:21
Probably because the fullbacks are being played to their strengths Digger.

Bring them to LFC so that this current management team can turn them into false number 9s. let's see how good they are then 🤪.

30 Nov 2025 06:40:41
Never quite thought of it like that jlc!
Look a v good side Newcastle with a couple more key signings I think they could be really challenging for a league.

29 Nov 2025 18:39:13
Hi all and Ed01.can I ask . was Slot praised on here last season for his ability to read, react, respond and adjust to opposing teams tactics as and when necessary? I may well be mistaken but it is bugging me! ✌.

{Ed001's Note - yes he was.}

29 Nov 2025 18:53:51
Thanks for yr prompt reply ed01 appreciated.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome.}

29 Nov 2025 23:37:41
So what's changed, except for the personnel that is?

30 Nov 2025 07:00:57
His ego.

29 Nov 2025 18:45:18
His latest interview - 'We've tried nothing, and were all out of ideas';

I contest those who believe Slot will go on to be a top manager at a big club, and raise you, he'll be a decent coach at a mid level club.

He lacks the minerals to be elite level. Listen to him speak, every other word is UMMMM. He makes excuses and says stuff like this - Slot rules out tactical shift to halt Liverpool’s slide.

Being a good coach is not the same as being an elite level manager of elite sportsmen and being the figurehead of a world class club, as Jurgen was.

29 Nov 2025 18:29:33
Neither agreeing or disagreeing with the sentiment of your post, but the ummm's might be because he's not speaking in his mother tongue.

29 Nov 2025 17:57:54
Um, Slot cruised us to the title with, what has become increasingly apparent, a limited squad. In his first season. It took Klopp four years to get his hands on a trophy.
One needs to be careful what one wishes for: it’s a huge gamble to bin a title winner.
The grass is rarely greener.

29 Nov 2025 18:15:37
When Liverpool struggled and you could see Klopp was flustered, he sounded like a babbled mess.

Slot is right in this tho - it’s not time to rip up the script and start with new system, tactics etc.

It’s not that it is impossible, it’s more that it is impractical in-season.

I don’t like any of the ideas people are putting out there anyways. Tweaks within the system are doable imo.

{Ed001's Note - and yet every team has managed to do that midseason on multiple occasions. There is nothing impractical about it.}

29 Nov 2025 19:22:23
You’re comparing Slot to Klopp on the basis that Klopp took four years to get the title.
Klopp had a rubbish infrastructure and a prime City to deal with. The comparison is folly Monster.

29 Nov 2025 20:01:35
Other than the results this year, the biggest change is Slot's press conferences. Nevermind his pauses or struggles with the language, it's the content that is totally different for me. It's like we have a completely different manager this year: willing to blame individual players, embarrassingly pointing out the smallest things he thinks are going well while the house is burning down around him, claiming we've been unlucky when the poor run started - it's all way too reminiscent of Rodgers for comfort.

For sure now, his complete lack of ideas and refusal to try anything new has to be a sign he's already been told times up. It's just pathetic otherwise.

29 Nov 2025 20:02:07
Love you Frode, but we have to stick for Slot. The alternative is so much worse.

29 Nov 2025 19:17:36
As much as I love you Mr 25, when was the title last won by a manager who arrived mid-season? Wenger? Mid-season appointments generally reflect short-term thinking.

{Ed025's Note - sometimes needs must mate..

29 Nov 2025 21:26:59
I love lamp.

30 Nov 2025 03:56:28
Klopp said the same thing when he had his difficult seasons, yes seasons plural.

He said multiple times it difficult to change entire system because they have no time train it. They could manage for a game based on tactics but I don’t think that’s what people are saying.

Overall, I just think it’s an unnecessary clutch to find something else to bring Slot down for. Where the reality is that it isn’t an easy thing to do.

What I would criticize Slot for and something I’ve posted here is that he’s not creating a competitive squad internally. It seems like there are favourites and those who aren’t favourites are clearly just emergency pieces.

Must be demoralizing for the fringe players and on the flip side would make the favourites players have a sense of complacency about them.

They certainly play like it.

30 Nov 2025 09:46:00
Arne is Dutch speaking and English is his second language that is maybe why he says ummm... YNWA.

29 Nov 2025 18:10:17
"Would you say this is Roy bad or Brendan bad?";

was one of the more repeatable questions asked in the Anfield press box in between PSV Eindhoven’s third and fourth goals on Wednesday. The correct answer would have been “Don Welsh bad”, given he was the last Liverpool manager to preside over nine defeats in 12 games, back in 1953-54.

29 Nov 2025 18:05:36
Roy had a terrible team when he was our manager, Brenda had an ok team n nearly won the league . Slot got a fantastic team n hasn't got a clue what to do with it.

29 Nov 2025 18:41:03
Brendan bad at the moment. Nothing is Roy bad. Hopefully ever again.

29 Nov 2025 18:57:05
This year I meant bfr every slot suppoerter tells me he won the league.

29 Nov 2025 22:55:49
@Davey I wouldn't say that's a given. Slot is 2 points better off than Roy was after the same number of games in the PL, but with a significantly better squad.